In this episode of the Bad Meetings podcast, host Erika McKellar welcomes Amanda Reill, an ICF-certified coach and executive ghostwriter. They dive into Amanda's personal story of navigating toxic leadership and the challenges of working under a narcissistic boss. The conversation covers the emotional and mental toll of such leadership, practical steps to recognize narcissistic traits, and the importance of setting boundaries. Amanda also shares how she rebuilt her career in writing and coaching, while offering actionable tips on how to protect yourself and recover from toxic environments.
Host: Erika McKellar, Host and Conflict Resolution Specialist
Guest: Amanda Reill, ICF-Certified Coach and Executive Ghostwriter
In this episode of the Bad Meetings podcast, Erika McKellar is joined by Amanda Riell, who shares her journey from ministry to becoming a coach and ghostwriter, while reflecting on her experience working with a narcissistic leader. The episode offers insights into how to identify toxic behavior in leadership, the emotional burden of narcissistic bosses, and practical advice for setting boundaries and protecting your mental health. Amanda also explains the importance of having a care plan for long-term healing.
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Key Time Stamps:
Introduction: 00:04
Amanda’s Career Journey: 03:10
Identifying Narcissistic Leaders: 09:45
Setting Boundaries and Protecting Your Energy: 19:32
Rebuilding After Toxic Leadership: 32:14
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Notable Quotes:
“Narcissists behave predictably once you know the playbook. It’s not about beating them at their game; it’s about getting off the board entirely.” Amanda Real
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Tools and Resources:
[The Wizard of Oz and Other Narcissists](https://www.amazon.com/Wizard-Oz-Other-Narcissists-Relationships/dp/0972072837): A recommended book for understanding narcissistic behavior in relationships and work.
[Boundaries by Henry Cloud](https://www.amazon.com/Boundaries-When-Take-Control-Your/dp/0310247454): A classic guide to understanding and setting personal boundaries.
[Amanda Reill Coaching](https://amandarealcoaching.com): Learn more about Amanda’s coaching services and connect with her.